That’s exactly the way he likes it.

How am I even going to do this?'"

Kitsch said his symbiotic relationship with Berg has allowed him to grow exponentially as an actor.

“I think that’s why he comes and brings me along these rides.

Berg’s buy-in kickstarted Kitsch’s career.

And I love that.”

“I’ve never been told this, and then it’s like, ‘Whoa, whoa, whoa.

You guys are actually using lights and marks and this and that?’

So it was a huge switch for me.”

He was on the brink of something major or at least, that’s what he was told.

Both movies underperformed at the box office and garnered largely negative reviews.

It changed the course of Kitsch’s career, though it may have been kismet.

“It’s the cliche: one for them, one for you,” he recalled.

Kitsch credits the latter with helping him define the kind of actor he wants to be.

“‘Waco’ scared the shit out of me,” said Kitsch.

“I had no idea how I was going to do that.”

“That one was so fucking important to me,” Kitsch said.

The subject matter hit close to home; his sister has struggled with opioid addiction.

“She’s eight years clean now,” he said.

He also wants to prioritize getting his own project off the ground: telling his sister’s story.

“Her story is just, it’s insane and very empowering and inspiring,” Kitsch said.

Not on the agenda?

Stressing over things like viewership numbers or ticket sales.

“Here’s a good story,” Kitsch recalled.

Oh my God, the box office.

BO is at $70-something million!'

and all this," he said.

“All these congrats were coming in.

And I’m like, ‘What are we celebrating?'”

Years later, Kitsch has held onto that desire to ignore outside expectations.

“We’ll see what happens,” he said.

“I’ll just keep swinging regardless.”

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