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These videos reliably go viral, and Seders entry was no different.
How did you end up doing one of these videos?
Did they reach out to you?They reached out to a guy who sometimes functions as my manager.
It was still pretty hazy when I got out there.
What made you say yes to doing this?
Everybody our age watches that.
So thats what basically convinced me.
Defending Social Security was a big one for me, for example.
I wanted to communicate what was going on with Project 2025.
Id been doing this for 20 years.
I know what the Republican agenda is.
I knew quite a bit about Project 2025.
I knew quite a bit about Russell Vought, who is the head of the OMB.
So you went in ready to engage in rhetorical combat.
But my understanding of why Jubilee makes these videos is to establish a sense of potential for common ground.
Particularly with the advocates of these agendas, I dont think theyre seeking common ground.
When youre talking about white nationalism, or Christian nationalism, or authoritarianism, there is no common ground.
Thats my primary goal in situations like that.
But you cant really be prepared.
What went through your mind you came to the realization that was what was happening?
But isnt that a risky thing to do?
And when Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles or any of these commentators embrace that guy, it exposes them.
Hes making this academic argument when my argument is, What are the implications of this?
That struck me as a conscious choice.
What could you tell me about that casting choice?
I had no idea who was there.
I have no idea how they cast it.
Did you think Jubilees casting choices here were trying to communicate something?
So it was probably a damned if you do, damned if you dont punch in of scenario.
But I have no idea about their casting process.
The age dynamic is one that really stood out to me.
Many of them were younger than you by quite some margin.Allof them were significantly younger than me.
Its possible I was the oldest person in the entire building.
There was one guy who I explained the child tax credit to.
My hope is that seeing that fact provided a fundamental shift in his worldview.
How did you feel talking with them?I found it a little bit disturbing.
Just the level of assuredness that they had in things I knew were so fundamentally wrong.
But I think they did a pretty good job of cutting those people out.
Tell me about that choice.I just think Im a polite person.
And honestly, I appreciated them doing this.
Have you kept in touch with anybody since you shot the video?No.
Ive seen some of them on Twitter, but I havent.
But I have to play the hand that I have.
