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Youve spoken about how you always wanted to do a fun competition show, which attracted you toThe Traitors.
Im a yes man.
I love pushing myself.
I love making myself uncomfortable.
Thats so good for growth.
On the show, you mentionedThe Traitorsbeing a lot easier thanThe Bachelor.
OnThe Bachelor, I was so focused on people-pleasing, on making everyone feel welcome and included and loved.
I gave so much of myself that ultimately, it wore me down.
The tank runs dry.
OnThe Traitors, I actually did the opposite of that: closing doors and trying to have private conversations.
I was a lot more focused on my group getting as far as possible.
I wasnt ever trying to ostracize people, but I was much more invested in being strategic and smart.
Is there really a right way to play, morally speaking?That got totally taken out of context.
I did say that, but I meant that it becomes a pride aspect.
I didnt want to turn, because I felt like we had so much momentum and success as Faithfuls.
It was almost more of a challenge: I want to winthisway.
It would be fun to win as a Traitor, but its a lot harder as a Faithful.
But of course theres no right or wrong way to win the game.
No ones actually a Traitor, no ones a bad person, no ones killing anyone.
That goes all the way toAlan Cumming, who is incredible in his role.
Hes such a Method actor.
He never broke character.
I had actually shared all the information from the recruitment letter with everyone in the castle days later.
They never showed me calling out Phaedra as a Traitor at the roundtableafter Dan leftand getting that going.
Or the bloodhound comment Phaedra made afterParvatiused the same word, kind of a Freudian slip.
Some of the evidence I had come up with and shared didnt make it to the screen.
Some people were like, There really was no evidence, but there was.
Youre used to watching yourself back on TV in these very emotionally intense, intimate situations.
It was emotional for me.
To have your peers vote you out, that hurt.
It was tough to watch.
In the beginning, youre not used to it and it can take a toll.
But having some experience now, no one gets good without the bad or bad without the good.
If you do, youre probably a really boring person.
Its almost a compliment to have so much discussion surrounding you.
This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.
