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What was more challenging winningThe Traitorsor winning the Rock Paper Scissors tournament?DefinitelyThe Traitors.
I was nervous for you at the fire of truth.
But we were prepared.
I do remember, believe it or not, having the most trust in Gabby.
I was definitely playing into it that I still didnt trust her.
Was that just you being caught off guard?Definitely, I was caught off guard.
And there was a lot cut out.
Its what shes supposed to do; shes got to fight.
She is a Traitor.
I would have chosen Ivar, most likely, just to ensure that I had someone on my team.
I was most convinced he was Faithful.
I was pretty fearful of that power, just in case I did choose a Traitor.
I think it would have ruined my game.
So theyre not correcting me, theyre not helping me.
The murder in plain sight changed everything.
Neither of those happened.
Then why is Tom still here?
And the answer to both of those questions was Carolyn and Danielle were protecting us.
Then the chessboard match confirmed the theory that Carolyn was a Traitor and Danielle was a Traitor.
And I remember in that moment I was hoping she would recruit Britney and not me.
I would have absolutely done it, but I hadnt gone through all the iterations yet.
I think Danielle made the right decision not choosing me, maybe the wrong decision recruiting Brittany.
But thats assuming you dont crack.
Thats assuming you dont give away your tells.
And for me, it was a lot, being on my first reality show.
I might have cracked and I might have had some tells, and that would have given me away.
It seemed like most people in the game ended up really liking and trusting you.
Once I found a Traitor, it really cleared my name.
Ive been able to travel and make friends around the world pretty quickly.
You came into the show referred to as Zac Efrons brother.
I genuinely believe and know Zacs been my No.
So when people call me Zacs brother, I dont get offended at all.
Well, I was personally very offended by the Bob the Drag Queen comment about Zacs acting.
If he watchesIron Clawand doesnt respect Zacs acting, hes got a problem.
At the end of the reunion, it looked like you really did leave on good terms with everyone.
Because it is hard.
Its hard to be a Faithful, I cant imagine how hard it was to be a Traitor.
I couldnt be mad at her for trying to manipulate me.
The 12-year-old in me is just freaking out.
This is the dream I had watchingSurvivorat 12, to win a show like this.
And I just freaking did it.
Im definitely open to more.
Im open to everything, honestly.
Whatever it is, I want to live the most interesting life I can.
You calledThe Traitorsa crash course in becoming a better person.
I was judging Gabby for reasons I thought were valid at the time, but obviously they werent.
I was judging people and being stubborn, believing my own beliefs over other peoples beliefs.
So that moment where I had to come to terms with,Look, Im not a genius.
Im not always right.
I have to listen to other people, and we have to work together, it was humbling.